Truancy laws

There was another truancy alert in my homeschool feed today, so I feel the need to write about it today.

The only knowledge I had of a truancy officer growing up was  from watching Mrs. Crabtree the teacher and various school truancy officers on The Little Rascals. However, in recent years, I’ve been reading about them in the news, known folks who’ve fought daytime curfew laws and even knew of one incident where a truancy officer contacted a homeschooler in my home town.  In the case of the homeschooler in my town, the young man had completed his homeschooling while still of compulsory school attendance age (6-18) and the officer was checking to see why the family had not notified of their intent to home educate him according to Ohio Code.  

Dictionary.com defines truant as follows:

tru⋅ant

1. a student who stays away from school without permission.
2. a person who shirks or neglects his or her duty.

-adjective

3. absent from school without permission.
4. neglectful of duty or responsibility; idle.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a truant.

-verb (used without object)

6. to be truant.

Home educated students are absent from public school, but with their parents permission and support.  If they are out and about town during the public school hours, they are most likely NOT shirking or neglecting their duty, but most likely involved in either real life learning or on their way to a real job.

Still, home educators  are often included in truancy discussions due to the fact that they are out and about throughout a day. Therefore, truancy  is a situation that many home educators like to keep track of.  For example, if you live in a town that has a daytime curfew law during school hours, how do you deal with it?  Some have suggested homeschool badges, but I’ve never been too keen on that.   It seems restrictive and dangerously like big brother needing to know our every move.   I understand that there are some instances of truancy, but I believe there are laws that already address that problem and see no need to make others suffer for a few law breakers.

The headline that caught my attention today was from Utah,  Cops, schools join forces to battle truancy problem. I wouldn’t be linking to them at all, but once again home educators were included in the mix.  They write:

Youth ages 6 to 18 are required to attend school by state law, but because of home schooling, work-release programs, early college courses, or vocational training opportunities open to students, it’s difficult for officers to verify who should be in class and who has permission not to be.

“We do see a number of kids out, but that’s where the challenge is,” Kirby said. “It’s hard for officers to know [who’s out legitimately], and with all the other calls coming in, they often don’t have time to find out.”

It seems to me, there could be some simple solutions to this  problem.  For example, certainly teachers know who might be truant?   Don’t schools have year book photos of students that the truant officer could use to identify them?   This would totally eliminate the presumption that all minors out during school hours are guilty of truancy.  It  would provide the officers  a simple check and balance system to help them enforce the laws that are already in place and leave innocent minors out of the fray.

How can you find the truancy laws in your state  and ensure your child’s rights aren’t violoated?

  1. You can check on recent activities and updates to truancy laws that have occurred in the U.S. at the Education Commission of the States page on Attendance and Truancy.
  2. You can attend city council meetings and stay abreast of education laws in your town.
  3. Discuss the situation with your children  who might be out during a curfew what to do if they are approached by a truancy officer or a policemen.

Comments

35 Responses to “Truancy laws”

  1. haris ahmad on February 15th, 2009 11:00 pm

    glad im reading your post. In my place i also notice that a lot of student who are ditching school and go anywhere that can make them happy. Even though there are laws and rule, entertainment premises still letting they in to play in school time. im not happy with that.

  2. Sandra on February 18th, 2009 3:40 pm

    The problem with using yearbooks to identify students is that the year books are often not released until the end of the school year. My high school in Vegas would take pictures in September, but the year books weren’t released to the students until May, so if the police were getting the books in May also they would be practically useless. In larger areas (and some times in smaller areas) students are transfered between schools, move out of districts or even the state.

    That said, how hard is it for the police to either call the school or call the student’s parent(s) to find out where they should be?

  3. gabrielle on April 22nd, 2009 12:52 pm

    so what if kids skip school… its not like their educational needs are being met. im a student who has been charged with it twice. the reason i dont go to school is because there is no motivation. the teachers there dont care if you succeed or drop out. most of them dont know how to teach. i think truancy is a way to screw kids over more. i think this whole truancy thing is bullshit… if i dont want to go to school and learn then thats my choice not some judges.

  4. Michelle on July 14th, 2009 2:11 pm

    I am a “truancy officer” that enforces the state truancy laws for my school district.

    Responding to your comment about the school or officers call parents to establish the status of their students… This is tricky. “Truant students” if you will comes in various shapes and sizes. In my experience they are a lot of enabling parents who will likely cover up for their children when they want to stay home and play video games or perhaps they are staying home to be used as childcare. Sometimes parents feel they have no control over their children and allow them to make their own choices. The situations and sometimes excuses can vary. Although school staff is often aware of the extremely truant students many others fly under radar and some don’t appear at school at all and have the potential to fall through the cracks. This is where truancy laws come in to play.

    In regards to Gabrielle’s posting about the judge not making decisions for her and what does it matter if she attends school anyway… Ultimately the effects of youth’s choices aren’t left with them, they greatly affect society as the youth of this country will shape what it is in the future. None or minimal education equals little or no skills and limits youths foundation to make choices.

    In addition, school districts receive funding per student and as the counts decrease because of truancy and other related matters, the budget decreases handicapping schools ability to maintain staffing levels, update technology and textbooks, etc.

    One last thing. I have had at least five families remove their students from our district this year to home school as method to avoid the truancy law. These students had extremely irregular attendance poor grades. In most of these particular cases, I suspect that homeschooling is not being carried out and those students are being deprived of their right to an education but there is no proof of academic performance that we can require and I consider this a glitch in the home school system.

    Some interesting truancy facts for your reference.

    HARD FACTS:

    • There is a direct correlation between daytime crime and truancy (See Attached Chart).
    • Truancy has been identified as an early warning sign for dropping out of high school.
    • High-school dropouts comprise 75% of state prison and 59% of federal prison inmates.
    • High-school dropouts are 3.5 times more likely than high school graduates to end up in jail.
    • High-school dropouts are 3 times more likely to become chemically dependent on drugs or alcohol than high school graduates.
    • High-school dropouts are more likely to need public assistance than those with a high school diploma.

    • Hard Facts” Source: Youth Policy Forum, “Whatever It Takes: How Twelve Communities Are Reconnecting Out-of-School Youth,” 2005.

  5. Luke on August 6th, 2009 7:05 am

    Maybe some people should check out these two sites:

    School-survival.net

    and

    info.soulriser.com

    Being forced to do anything against your will always sucks in my opinion. The only reason kids are forced to attend school, is so they learn to obey authority and the law. The government are afraid of rebels, so they feel the need to control everyone from a young age.

    You need to rely on yourself for your own ‘education’. Learning useless formulas will only get you so far. I’ll just say that what I have learned in my life is thanks to me alone. I’m glad I’m not a narrow-minded, stereotyping person who tells others what’s right or wrong, or how to live their own life.

    If anyone hates school, there’s nothing wrong with them. I don’t see how one person’s perspective/opinion means more than someone else’s.

    Finally, I know many people who attend school almost everyday that use drugs and break the “law”. I’ve skipped many classes in my day, but I don’t smoke, drink, or do drugs. Those stats up there are only meant to scare uncorrupted minds into thinking they’ll become some idiot if they dare think for themselves.

    I’d rather die than do something against my will just because someone says it’s “right” or “wrong”. Your beliefs aren’t facts.

  6. Joe Blogs on September 17th, 2009 4:38 am

    I will be finishing high school in exactly two months from this date, and I regret not taking time out of school, and skipping class more often. Those times of being a child, reckless, causing no harm to anyone but only having fun, that is all it’s about really.

    English class proved to be a waste of time, however i did manage to learn a few skills; procrastination whilst trying to stay in full alert of the Gestapo woman yelling at the class up the front.

    You see, school to me evidently was a portion of my time that has been wasted. All those classes that i was forced to take, the hours that just rolled by, i can’t begin to explain how frustrated and angry this made me. those times where i though to myself, “I could be using this time more productively than this.”

    The people at school, the intellects, the airheads, the complete morons. Why do i want to be here? I can’t stand these people. The teachers, the coordinators, don’t they have more important things to do rather than telling me where and where not to sit. This all seems to unprofessional of them.

    Im leaving school, with a terrible and bitter attitude however good the memories were.

  7. bob on February 28th, 2010 12:06 am

    like omygosh! i like totally school what shoudl i like do?

  8. Kelly on March 21st, 2010 10:29 pm

    Do you guys know when the truancy officers patrol? If you do please e-mail me at xLunarKissx@hotmail.com

    Thank you :)

  9. neoeritas on September 22nd, 2010 2:06 am

    Truancy laws completely impinge on the liberty of parents and their children. It is the state and federal government that break the supreme law in the U.S. when they create and enforce such laws. They simply do not retain the authority to create such laws. An important thing to remember is that the US constitution does not grant citizens rights but instead informs the government of their limitations. The citizens of this country are suposed to have authority over the government. Liberty and freedom are rights that flow from God not the government. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

  10. km on December 17th, 2010 5:55 pm

    well, I don’t know how a child makes the decision not to go to school and the law doesn;t do anything about, unless the child is a criminal such as a drug dealer, robber so on and so forth. how can Basically, if the child doesn’t go to school, even though the family has done everything possible to enforce it, then we are on our own? UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!

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  12. Patches on January 23rd, 2011 9:25 am

    The principal at my childs school called the other day to inform us that our child is a truant and that we are setting a poor example for her by letting her miss so much school. My child attends a school of about 200 kids k-8, she is in the 8th grade and has went to this school her entire life. My daughter has missed 16 days of school due to illness. She is not a truant according to the definition of the word. The school has excused all of her absences. I don’t think it is fair to label a child a truant if the parents are calling in for the child and are aware of the child not going to school. I don’t think schools should be able to pressure parents into sending sick kids to school. We are trying to be responsible parents but the school system is making it tough to do that anymore. I think the only thing our school is worried about is funding from the government they get for each child in attendance for a set amount of days. This sucks!

  13. Tammy on January 26th, 2011 2:34 pm

    So.. here I sit watching the clock waiting for yet another interference from the courts over a truancy charge 11 yr old son picked up last year for having the flu and watching his grandfather pass away. It almost seems comically to me to read the seriousness in the posts on here as I look at my child who couldn’t get a medical excuse without insurance and lost the only man in his life to a very rapid cancer. What right does the courts have to lump him in with children who may CHOOSE not to go to school. Irony it the truest sense. Apparently family illness and death only applies to children over 12 yrs old and then must overcome within 3 days. With school and court officials who would put him through this after everything he has already survived this year it is no wonder he hated school. I can’t say that I would blame him if he felt the way some of the other kids on here feel about school and the “policy”. So truancy classes that subject him to older kids who choose not to go to school and meeting with a care coordinator who pops up twice a month to ask him if he is doing his work. Like this is really going to FIX him. Can it bring his papa back or make him trust the school officials who claim to have his best interest in mind? Is there any lesson to be learned here? Sure there is…HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN…it’s about time the schools learn to keep the children needs a priority over their annual budget.

  14. Mary on January 27th, 2011 10:25 am

    Tammy—

    I am not sure what state you are in, but there may be advocates who could offer some help, or guide you to someone who could.

    In my state, once a child is truant and already counted as such, there are different guidelines for homeschooling, but it is still an option.

    Mary

  15. harris on February 14th, 2011 11:28 pm

    my daughter was being bullied at school i withdrew her registered her for ged and the judge want to place her and shes employed full time totally wrong of her

  16. harris on February 14th, 2011 11:31 pm

    my daughter was being bullied at school i withdrew her registered her for ged and shes employed full time but the judge want to place her for what

  17. harris on February 14th, 2011 11:33 pm

    my daughter was being bullied at school i withdrew her registered her for ged and shes employed full time but the judge want to place her for what ? shes 16 and half

  18. Tammy on February 15th, 2011 9:48 am

    Update on my previous post.. I went to court, court appointed counsel suggested we plead guilty accept the offer of truancy classes. Against my better judgement we did, my 11 yr old was sitting in the lobby of the court house terrified and crying, I just wanted to get him out of there. At the last minute the magistrate throws in a recommendation for my son to meet with a care coordinator to see if there was any support Jaden needed for the grief. We attended truancy classes, the care coordinator met with my son every other Friday for over 2 months and her only recommendation was that he should go to bed earlier which is irrelevant since he is home schooled, and that he should not drink pop. She arrived for the last meeting but I had not gotten home from work until about 4am that night, stayed up a few hours studying for my sociology final and literally was awaken by her ringing the doorbell. Since the kids were still asleep ( they got up when I came home at 4am and stayed up most the morning with me) I asked her if we could reschedule. Now truthfully, I was half asleep and can’t say for certain when we rescheduled the next visit for so but I do recall her saying that she would call if she could not make that time…none the less that following Mon I had the kids ready for her to arrive ( my son and the2 girls ages 2 and 3 that I had to distract so my son and this woman could meet in peace), she never arrived, the following Fri, same thing, she never arrived. Weeks went by, a new quarter at school started, my shift changed to thirds….then I get a court notice saying I was being charged with contempt for refusing to comply with this woman. WHAT??? I did not get a phone call from her to reschedule and had no idea how to contact her. I didn’t truthfully even know her name. She claims she called and stopped by. Now not only did my son take his truancy charge but now we are charged with contempt. New lesson of the week..do not let the courts systems into your life. Do not trust them to work for you or your kids and you can forget about anyones interests being served unless of course you consider the hoops you will be asked to jump through for the amusement of the courts, and let’s not forget the money….I am not the criminal, my son is not some disobedient little 11 yr old who skipped school…WE ARE THE VICTIMS. Do not trust the courts to offer support or sympathize with you. I was in truancy class with a family who’s daughter was molested during the school year, tried to commit suicide and had severe emotional trauma, yet she was found guilty for failing to attend classes for a few weeks straight. Oh my God…homeschool your children people. For anyone interested..check out the k.12 program. It’s free, done online and eliminates the control the schools have over your life.

  19. Connie Petty on March 2nd, 2011 1:29 pm

    I live in central CA. My problem is not having a truant student. My problem is NCLB which has wording regarding homeless students, that requires them to receive a “free and appropriate public education.”
    After talking to our county office of ed, I found that there is no way they will support a school for only homeless students. It is against the law. My objection to this law is that NCLB does not consider the emotional and psychological issues faced by the homeless student in the classroom. I KNOW there are still students out there who are homeless, who are not attending school because of the stigma attached to homelessness. And they are in the lower grades. The office of ed claims it has this issue under control. I do not believe it. How, on Earth, does one keep a secret that they live in a hotel, tent, or car?
    The COoEd claims they keep this to “classified” information, so only teachers, administrators, and perhaps counselors know this about the student. I don’t believe that, either. I would like to find a site that gives statistics about various counties of homeless students. Any ideas? I wrote to Sam Farr about this, only to receive an automated response–”don’t call us, we’ll call you…” I am very disgusted and frustrated with what the Bush regime did to all students. Legal and physical issues are addressed. Psychological and emotional issues are ignored. I sent to S. Farr, because the reauthorization of NCLB is coming up. I want to see a change. They are ignoring me. Could “homeschooling” be the answer? I have a spot to meet. I am also on unemployment (teacher)and am sick about the school system and their idiocy.
    Thanks for listening. If anyone comes up with a plausible solution, please write.

  20. Josh on March 16th, 2011 11:08 pm

    Im 17 and am going to court tomorrow for my “truancys” i am a kid with ACTUAL medical problems many in fact ive gotten doctors notes and everything and they are still taking me to court after the first 10 they brought me in to a meeting with the principle and my parents have written me tons of excuses and my doctor has given me excuses but when they got my file there were only 3 notes in it so tell me where did all my notes go……..when somebody is physically ill to the point where im in the hospital at least twice a month shouldnt there be a law protecting me?

  21. Josh on March 16th, 2011 11:09 pm

    Im 17 and am going to court tomorrow for my \"truancys\" i am a kid with ACTUAL medical problems many in fact ive gotten doctors notes and everything and they are still taking me to court after the first 10 they brought me in to a meeting with the principle and my parents have written me tons of excuses and my doctor has given me excuses but when they got my file there were only 3 notes in it so tell me where did all my notes go……..when somebody is physically ill to the point where im in the hospital at least twice a month shouldnt there be a law protecting me?

  22. Mary on March 17th, 2011 5:18 pm

    I am sorry Josh- certainly your medical records could be requested from the hospital and your doctor by your parents to show them proof of your illnesses?

    I hope you will let us know how this went.

  23. Josh on March 17th, 2011 9:25 pm

    I went to court and i had to pay 28 dollar restutution to my high school (what a joke) and i have a $600 fine suspended until i miss any school or get any tardys or any f’s i can’t miss ANY school without a medical excuse but as far as the school “loosing my notes” i guess ill have to start making copys before i turn them in i guess it could have gone a lot worse but the judge saw that im not a bad kid ive never been in trouble ive never been suspended ive never even been in the principles office thank you mary for your response i think everything will be ok

  24. Mary on March 18th, 2011 11:19 am

    Hi Josh,

    It is very sad and feels so unjust when facing a situation like this. It does sound like the judge was wise and recognized that you are a fine young man.

    If you can learn one thing from this and carry it with you, it is the truth that you are your own best advocate, so yes, make copies of everything to back up your facts.

    Best wishes to you and your family. Have you considered homeschooling?

  25. Josh on March 19th, 2011 3:17 am

    Actually mary this year i am a junior but i should be a senior when i was a sophmore i was so bullied and i got fed up with the school not doing anything when a kid walks up and punches me in the ribcage that i withdrew to do homeschooling but i got so sick that i spent pretty much 3 months in bed and didn’t get enough credits to count as a “sophmore year” so when i was supposed to start 11th i went back to high school as a sophmore long story short homeschool is no question…..luckily i got a credit evaluation on wendsday and i only need 8 more credits to graduate and 4 with come from the last half of this year so possibly i could graduate in december my senior year (keep your fingers crossed) REPLY BACK SOON MARY!

  26. Gibson on April 22nd, 2011 11:03 am

    Ok. So I’m 17 I’m supposed to graduate next year at 18 but due to me missing school I’m not graduating till I’m 20 because I’m 6credits behind.
    Kids are mean at my school and I was verbally emotionally and very phychically abused as a kid growing up.
    So I missed a bunch of school over this and requested many times to speak with the principal to talk about it but the counselor chick never came and got me.
    So after 2 more months I finally speak to him and I tell him its hard and the school isn’t for me and I wanna be homeschooled so I can graduate on time. And he sat there in his chair and said ” well come to school everyday and pass your classes” and I’m like no shit, that’s not the problem I want to graduate with my class and not be behind but dummy doesn’t care. So I finally just quit going but about 2 weeks ago I get a letter telling me to go to court. And I’ve already done the classes. And my court date was for April 18 but I feel it’s not fair if it’s my education and I’m only a year from being an adult that other people get to choose my education, if I wanna be homeschooled I should be able to be homeschooled.
    So I miss the court date and Im wondering if I’m going to get in trouble for not showing up for it at all.
    I’m also thinking about just trying for my GED instead but I’m in 10th grade ( and yes I was held back ) and i just am really fed up with school.

  27. Mary on April 22nd, 2011 3:45 pm

    Gibson,

    I personally feel that whether one is in school, at home, or in a private school, they are fundamentally responsible for their own education and life.

    That said, one must also try to understand the laws and regulations that are connected to the choice they are involved with according to their state or country.

    Is there anyone over 18 who might help you with this? I do believe you will be able to work this out, but just wondering if you might get a bit of support?

    If you are in the U.S., then compulsory education laws vary from state to state. You need to know what they are in your state.

    Then, you will understand what your choices are, you will know your rights. Then, you will also know if someone is stating fact or misinterpreting your rights. You also need to understand your laws to know what the consequences might be for not showing up in court, not going to school etc.

    It is not a fair world, but if you learn your rights and responsibilities, you will truly be able to be your own best advocate.

  28. Jennifer on October 17th, 2011 5:17 am

    Wow. I read this article and these posts and it makes me feel like my state and school system is one of the few that knows what their doing. In Kentucky the law states that you are truant at 3 unexcused absences, and habitually truant after 6 unexcused absences. A parent can write up to 6 notes excusing days and the remaining amount must come from a doctor. If you have a medical condition that causes you to have to miss numerous days then you must get it documented in your child’s records or Individual Education Plan so that they will not be held truant. Each time any student is absent the parent is called by the schools on the day of the absence for ALL kids no matter what grade. Saturday schools are set up in middle and high schools for students that have unexcused absences to make up.. This is required for credits and graduation in high school. The responsibility is not completely put on the parent or the truant officer here… But the fines for those very few parents that do wind up going to court.. Are very high.

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  30. Michelle on November 5th, 2011 3:06 pm

    I have to say that this website has brought a lot to life for me. You see I have a soon to be 15 yr. old daughter who has been in truency court for three years… yes I said it.. three years. She was sent home by the school four days in a roll,so that was our fault, she was put into the truency court. She has had strep throat,her white blood cell count was up over 25,000 she was very sick..as in hospital sick. When I took her to school on this one morning she had been running a high temp through out the night I was giving her motrin and tylenol through out the night,the next morning I took her and our son to school I informed them that she was very sick and I was taking her to the ER, the truency officer told me that she has to have a fever and informed him of what I did through out the night he said I should have just let her have a temp.. really,those were his words along with if you take her we will charge you with parental negelect… you would think if a parent didn’t take their children to see a doctor then maybe they should be charged for not caring for their kids when they are sick. So she sat at school the whole day sick,running a fever… being very ill. It just so happened she had a very serious infection. She has been diagnosed with IBS if anyone has this condition or knows someone one with it, it is a very painful stomach disease and stress only makes it worse. With a doctor’s note stating she has this and to please excuse her when she is having a spout with it, to my amazement the judge’s comment to me was oh well she may have a few bad moments but she needs to be at school. I have had enough of this school and their need to put in their two cents when not wanted or needed. I am her mother am very capable of taking care of her and her medical needs. I dont need them telling me I have no right to take care of my child at home she needs to be in school with severe stomach cramping, vomiting,blacking out and diarrea. Does anyone have any information on how I can pull her out of this school and home school my daughter? Our son wants to go to school and he does… she has just had enough of the people who bully, the staff who yell, the principals who have their picks and favorites… along with the teachers… and who can blame her. She has lost her passion for school and after all of this who can blame her? When is enough enough? Why do they think they have the right to control your life as well as your child. I think it is a direct violation of our rights. My heart and prayers goes out to all of you who has had to endure this system and all the narrow minded school’s who care only the attendence of a child for funding and careless about their well being.

  31. Michelle on November 5th, 2011 3:06 pm

    I have to say that this website has brought a lot to life for me. You see I have a soon to be 15 yr. old daughter who has been in truency court for three years… yes I said it.. three years. She was sent home by the school four days in a roll,so that was our fault, she was put into the truency court. She has had strep throat,her white blood cell count was up over 25,000 she was very sick..as in hospital sick. When I took her to school on this one morning she had been running a high temp through out the night I was giving her motrin and tylenol through out the night,the next morning I took her and our son to school I informed them that she was very sick and I was taking her to the ER, the truency officer told me that she has to have a fever and informed him of what I did through out the night he said I should have just let her have a temp.. really,those were his words along with if you take her we will charge you with parental negelect… you would think if a parent didn\’t take their children to see a doctor then maybe they should be charged for not caring for their kids when they are sick. So she sat at school the whole day sick,running a fever… being very ill. It just so happened she had a very serious infection. She has been diagnosed with IBS if anyone has this condition or knows someone one with it, it is a very painful stomach disease and stress only makes it worse. With a doctor\’s note stating she has this and to please excuse her when she is having a spout with it, to my amazement the judge\’s comment to me was oh well she may have a few bad moments but she needs to be at school. I have had enough of this school and their need to put in their two cents when not wanted or needed. I am her mother am very capable of taking care of her and her medical needs. I dont need them telling me I have no right to take care of my child at home she needs to be in school with severe stomach cramping, vomiting,blacking out and diarrea. Does anyone have any information on how I can pull her out of this school and home school my daughter? Our son wants to go to school and he does… she has just had enough of the people who bully, the staff who yell, the principals who have their picks and favorites… along with the teachers… and who can blame her. She has lost her passion for school and after all of this who can blame her? When is enough enough? Why do they think they have the right to control your life as well as your child. I think it is a direct violation of our rights. My heart and prayers goes out to all of you who has had to endure this system and all the narrow minded school\’s who care only the attendence of a child for funding and careless about their well being.

  32. Chris Ciappa on November 8th, 2011 11:31 am

    I am appalled by the the propoganda style beliefs people have. Does anyone even realize that the entire nation (United States) was home schooled at one point. Then moved to small community school houses/rooms (The proverbial one room schoolhouse). Does anyone know how or why summer vacations came about? Yes so that entire families could work their farms and harvest their crops.

    Do you know that if I want to home school my children, then in a truly free society I should not be bound to have to report to anyone.

    What we have in this country is Government Gone Wild, all the while infringing on liberties anywhere they can, in the name of rights and benefits to the people and society and children etc…

    Education is the but one of the many ways they take away our freedoms. What is worse, the emply people in positions like Truancy Officers and yes these people likely have nice fat benefit packages and salaries along with power and authority to harass regular people going about their business of raising their children the way they see fit.

    Shall we talk about school propoganda now too. Do you know books that ALWAYS used to say B.C. (Ex. 2000 B.C.) now read B.C.E. so 2000 years “Before Christ” has now become 2000 years “Before Common Era”. Where please, I beg someone to tell me, where was it intended in our constitution that we had to keep all mention of god or religion out of schools? WHERE? I believe the ENTIRE POINT of the constitution was to PREVENT GOVERNMENT from interfering in things like religion. Not to keep religion out of our institutions, but rather keep GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES. Religion = Good, GOVERNMENT = BAD.

    Meanwhile the establishment wants to FORCE US to have our children in school and implement laws to impune or punish us if we do not go subject our children to their propoganda and force them to school using the law to do so. WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? Soon I fear I will not even have the right to write somethign like this without reprisal. Again, what happened to America and Freedom.

  33. Chris Ciappa on November 8th, 2011 11:31 am

    I am appalled by the the propoganda style beliefs people have. Does anyone even realize that the entire nation (United States) was home schooled at one point. Then moved to small community school houses/rooms (The proverbial one room schoolhouse). Does anyone know how or why summer vacations came about? Yes so that entire families could work their farms and harvest their crops.

    Do you know that if I want to home school my children, then in a truly free society I should not be bound to have to report to anyone.

    What we have in this country is Government Gone Wild, all the while infringing on liberties anywhere they can, in the name of rights and benefits to the people and society and children etc…

    Education is the but one of the many ways they take away our freedoms. What is worse, the emply people in positions like Truancy Officers and yes these people likely have nice fat benefit packages and salaries along with power and authority to harass regular people going about their business of raising their children the way they see fit.

    Shall we talk about school propoganda now too. Do you know books that ALWAYS used to say B.C. (Ex. 2000 B.C.) now read B.C.E. so 2000 years \"Before Christ\" has now become 2000 years \"Before Common Era\". Where please, I beg someone to tell me, where was it intended in our constitution that we had to keep all mention of god or religion out of schools? WHERE? I believe the ENTIRE POINT of the constitution was to PREVENT GOVERNMENT from interfering in things like religion. Not to keep religion out of our institutions, but rather keep GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES. Religion = Good, GOVERNMENT = BAD.

    Meanwhile the establishment wants to FORCE US to have our children in school and implement laws to impune or punish us if we do not go subject our children to their propoganda and force them to school using the law to do so. WHAT HAVE WE BECOME? Soon I fear I will not even have the right to write somethign like this without reprisal. Again, what happened to America and Freedom.

  34. paige on March 28th, 2012 4:33 pm

    can you move scools legely if you are on truice wach wene you move out of tone

  35. frankie on April 16th, 2012 5:59 am

    I’m 17 and they just kicked me out of school maybe a month ago.. now that I’m out I really don’t know what to do. Plus on top of that.. they suspended my license for the same reaso. So how am I suppose to get a job? Or even move on in life. Its practically like they damned me to hell exspecially because my family is homeless and we live with my grandparents. The government.. is sooo wrong..